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                Info-ParaNet Newsletters   Volume I  Number 519

                           Friday, January 10th 1992

Today's Topics:

                                  Dr. Levengood
                                hieronymous, etc.
                            CUFOS Abduction Videotape
                                  Crop Circles
                         An Interesting Development ...
                                Re: UFO SUICIDES?
                                   JFK MYSTERY
                              Re: *** TV ALERT ***
                                 Amazon Question
                         An Interesting Development ...
                              The Bennewitz Papers
                               Calvin Knows Better
                                  Noriega Trial
                                    Suicides?
                                    Suicides?
                                  Re: Suicides?
                            Re: Rendelsham/Bentwaters
                                    Visitors
                                    Nephilim
                                   CIS message
                                    AVRO Car

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From: [e-mail] (Sheldon Wernikoff)
Subject: Dr. Levengood
Date: 29 Dec 91 01:35:01 GMT

To: [e-mail] (Cassandra)

Hello Cassandra,

It's been quite some time since I provided you with Dr. Levengood's
phone #.

Have you had any luck in discussing/obtaining the crop circle seed
specimens you were interested in?

If so, what are your thoughts and comments on Levengood's work?

Take care,

Sheldon Wernikoff

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: hieronymous, etc.
Date: 28 Dec 91 15:51:07 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <22 Dec 91 08:32> Kay Mclaughlin wrote:

 > JS> opener? HAHAHAHA! That's gonna go in my list of The Ten Most
 > JS> Outlandish Claims of All Time.
 > JS> Lessee, so far I've got...

 > JS> Lizard Man
 > JS> Elvis Lives
 > JS> Bielek's Philadelphia Story
 > JS> The Driver Shot Kennedy
 > JS> The Diagram Works as Well as the Machine

 > JS> Any other candidates?

 KM> The Shroud of Turin?


Mmmmm.....I dunno, Kay, that one had me going for a while...course, that just
may be my own gullibility...

Jim


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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: CUFOS Abduction Videotape
Date: 28 Dec 91 15:52:33 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <26 Dec 91 15:39> Mark Rodeghier wrote:


 MR> Jim,

 MR>        Must be time to clear up a little mix up...My name is
 MR> Mark Rodeghier but I'm not the same one you are probably thinking
 MR> of.  The one you deal with lives in Chicago and is a UFO expert.
 MR> At best, I'm probably a distant cousin of his since much of my
 MR> family came from Chicago via Italy.  If you or anyone else knows
 MR> how I can contact him, pleas let me know.  I would like to meet my 'twin'.

 MR> Mark Rodeghier from Orlando


Mark Rodeghier from Orlando, meet Mark Rodeghier from Chicago. He's on here,
and has already responded to the above message. He should be saying hi shortly.

Jim

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Crop Circles
Date: 28 Dec 91 16:08:52 GMT

In a message to All <23 Dec 91 08:59> Richard Salts wrote:

 RS> I have been reading about the phenomena of crop circles for quite a
 RS> while in the UFO literature and I have a question about this subject.

 RS> In what way are these things supposed to be revelant to UFO's?  I
 RS> have no idea where they are supposed to fit into the  UFO mystery but
 RS> I see that they are being given a great deal of attention in the
 RS> UFO on this echo and so I am curious about how these things "fit" in
 RS> with UFO Studies.

 RS> Anyone know?




 ...they're round?


Jim

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: An Interesting Development ...
Date: 28 Dec 91 16:15:24 GMT

In a message to Vladimir Godic <27 Dec 91 16:42> Don Allen wrote:


 DA> I "believe" that both cases are real..however, I cannot prove them
 DA> satisfactorily to skeptics, but that's just my opinion. Every person
 DA> has their own index for what kinds of "proof" they will accept as being
 DA> real/acceptable to them. To me, both GB and the Meier case are labeled
 DA> "religious".

 DA> Happy Holidays to ya!

 DA> Don

Don: As long as you label the cases "religious," that's fine, I have no
argument with you. My problem is that you accuse the skeptics of demanding
absolute concrete proof of reality, yet you seem to demand the same in the
opposite direction. Thankfully, human thinking is not strictured by such binary
logic. It is possible to come to a _tentative_ conclusion based on the evidence
amassed thus far. You yourself admit that the evidence tips the scale heavily
toward the hoax side (at least, the litany of negative elements you recite sure
sound like a preponderance of negative evidence). Surely intelligent men like
Stevens must see this. Yet he continues to defend the case on _scientific_
(note: not religious) grounds. This, coupled with the fact that he is now
singing the praises of a cocktail waitress who claims to have been born on
Venus, and is able to channel Venusians....need I go on?


Happy Holidays to you too!

Jim

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From: [e-mail] (Pete Porro)
Subject: Re: UFO SUICIDES?
Date: 27 Dec 91 18:23:20 GMT

Maybe most of the dentists and psychiatrists are interested in UFO's? That
would include the highest risk groups? If frustration and stress are the
greatest causes, I better buy a plot right away. But that has nothing to do
with UFO's, just Goof-O's.  8*)
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From: [e-mail] (Pete Porro)
Subject: JFK MYSTERY
Date: 27 Dec 91 19:15:51 GMT

From: EA RICHARDS
  To: THE ALPHANS
Subj: CONSPIRACY/MYSTERY/DEATH JFK-I
Was anyone ever put on trial for the assassination of John F. Kennedy?

Remember that New Orleans District Attorney, Jim Garrison, who thought he had
some answers to the JFK mystery?  He indicted a man named Clay Shaw, whom
Garrison accused of being involved in the killing along with a group of
Castro-Cubans, and actually tried him in a New Orleans Parish court.

Clay Shaw was acquitted, but soon afterward was found dead in his home under
circumstances which could only be construed as suspicious.  Shaw was only one
of the many individuals connected to this greatest of contemporary
mystery/conspiracies surrounding the murder of JFK, whose death followed an
unusual pattern.

Despite the many reports and books written about the Kennedy case, it would yet
appear that the tragic events on and after that tragic day are still a knitting
mills horror of loose ends, of timely coincidences too well placed to be
coincidental.  For example, the inexplicably high mortality rate for
individuals unlucky enough to have been associated with the case.  Oddity?
Or design!  For example:

John F. Kennedy, the president

Lee Harvey Oswald, the alleged killer of John Kennedy.

Jack Sangetti, A lounge owner who told friends Ruby would kill Oswald.

Betty Mooney MacDonald, Carousel Club Stripper, picked up by the Dallas Police,
found hanged in her cell.

Darrel Garner, accused of wounding witness who saw officer Tippet shot.

Officer Tippet.

Hank Killiam, husband of stripper Wanda Killiam.

Gary Underhill, Life Magazine Editor, CIA Agent, who begged for protection
because he said he knew who killed JFK, found shot in left temple, called
suicide even though he was right-handed.

Bill Hunter, reporter, who had met with Ruby's lawyer a few hours after the
killing, shot 'accidently' by a policeman at the Long Beach, CA station.

Jim Koethe, killed by karate chop to throat, present at above meeting.

Mary Meyer, one of JFK'S girlfriends, shot while taking a walk in a D.C. park,
her dairy confiscated and destroyed.

Frank Chavez, friend of Ruby's, killed by his own bodyguard.

Tom Howard, Ruby's lawyer, died of 'a mysterious heart attack.'

Rose Charami, Carousel stripper, who told her psychiatrist that JFK would be
killed, 48 hours prior, who had often seen Oswald with Jack Ruby.

Dorothy Kilgallen, famous writer and TV personality, who spoke to Ruby for over
a half-hour, afterwards saying she would 'break the JFK case wide open,' of an
apparent overdose of alcohol and barbiturates.

William Whaley, who drove Oswald home, killed in auto crash.

Karen Carlin, Carousel Club entertainer, last to speak to Ruby before he killed
Oswald, killed herself by gunshot to head.

Navy Lt. William Pitzer, photographer of JFK autopsy, gunshot to head.

Jack Ruby, supposedly of cancer.

David Ferrie, witness in Shaw trial, suspicious suicide.

Lladio Del Valle, Cuban, shot through heart.

Dr. Mary Sherman, shot.

Robert Kennedy, supposedly shot by Sirhan Sirhan (who only remembers hitting
Kennedy in the shoulder.  Guard E. Cesar had the same caliber pistol with him.

Clyde Johnson, who had attended parties with Ferrie, Ruby, and Oswald, shot to
death near Greensburg, La.

Clay Shaw, as described previously.

Ex-Deputy Roger Craig, who said he had seen a man resembling Oswald leaving the
assassination site, found shot to death, ruled a suicide.

Mob figures killed to halt possible revelations:  Sam Giancanna, Johnny
Roselli, William Harvey, Sheffield Edward, Mickey Cohen.

George DeMorenschildt, sought by a house committee, shot, alleged suicide.

Carlos Prio Sacarras, ex-Pres. of Cuba, Ruby's casino partner, suicide.

Lou Staples, TV talk show host who interviewed the JFK investigators, found
shot and killed in Oklahoma.

This particular list is up-to-date as of 1978, about 12 years ago. Since that
time more people have vanished from the scene in numbers too high to be
considered a normal attrition rate.  Were the above mentioned people eliminated
because of what they may or may not have known, or would they have died anyway
in due course?  Did Oswald really make a miraculous shot and kill Kennedy who
was riding in a moving car, or was it someone else?

Comments?

I have a couple more around here with some more interesting connections, but
this is the one you asked about. This message is from the ALPHA echo which
regularly deals with any topic. It's available from 154/0 by request and I
know a few systems around the country carry it. (but not many) EA Richards is
the moderator and the home of the echo is Radio Free Milwaukee, AKA Paranet
XI-Alpha. Alpha also has discussions on paranormal when it comes up, the USS
Liberty, foods and beverage, BCCI, and anything else. It might be called a
general echo, so nothing is off topic. Seems to lean towards politics and
humor most often though. (they are the same right?)
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From: [e-mail] (John Hrusovszky)
Subject: Re: *** TV ALERT ***
Date: 26 Dec 91 05:03:15 GMT


 nc> The Christmas episode of 'Unsolved Mysteries' will be a rebroadcast of
 nc> season premiere covering the Bentwaters/Rendlesham case.

JS> Jim:

JS> We seem to have a basketball game playing at that time. Is that just us
JS> in Phoenix?

Nope.  Just finished watching it.  And right afterwards, a Special
Speech by President Bush -- about the breakup of Russia!  Then the
basketball game.  What a letdown!



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From: [e-mail] (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Amazon Question
Date: 29 Dec 91 15:46:00 GMT

The Rocky Mountain News
Page 42
Monday, December 23, 1991
Science Watch (column)

Anthropology
Lost civilization found

  Archeologists hae discovered a lost
civilization in the Amazon jungle that
dates to about 6,000 B.C.,
_The Independent_ newspaper reports.
''The discovery and the extraordinarily
early date overturn the accepted early
history of the Americas,'' the London
newspaper said last week.  The evidence
shows several large settlements on the
Amazon's banks.  Human skeletons at the
site are ''robust, tall, compared to
later Amerindian populations,''
one scientist said.

  -- 30 --
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From: [e-mail] (John Burke)
Subject: An Interesting Development ...
Date: 29 Dec 91 19:11:00 GMT


 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO"
 * Originally from John Burke
 * Originally dated 12-29-91 10:49

Don Allen writes:

 >                       *  *  *

 > . . .    I've seen a lot of "Meier is/has hoaxed the
 > film..the wires are holding up the beamships" type
 > discussions..but NO PROOF has ever surfaced to substantiate
 > those claims..no one has PROVED that Meier has hoaxed
 > anything...but conversly, no independent investigator
 > (other than Stevens/Elders and the Japanese) has
 > proved Meier's case ABSOLUTELY. It would be
 > nice if Asket or Semjase would be gracious enough to pose
 > for pictures :-)
 >                       *  *  *

As a matter of fact, Billy Meier came up with a photo of Semjase which was
later identified as a photo from the German edition of the Sears catalog.  The
model was tracked down and she didn't know a beamship from a steamship.

Then there was the story about how Billy was taken into the future to
photograph San Francisco after an earthquake.  The photo was later identified
as an artist's rendering on the subject which was published in _Geo_ magazine.
When Brit Elders was asked to comment on this she said:  "Just because one
photo was faked doesn't mean the entire case was faked."

As for Billy's films, there is a bit of irony involved here, especially with
the comparison to the Ed Walters case.  The film of the "UFO" flying around the
tree was analyzed by a fellow who successfully demonstrated that the "UFO" was
actually a pendulum on a string.  He also calculated the exact length of the
string and published his findings in the _IUR_ back in about '88 or '89 in an
article called "The Pendulum From The Pleaides". Curiously, the author of this
article was none other than Bruce Maccabee, proponent of the Walters case.  I
believe he also wrote another article around that time contrasting the two
cases (it may have been in the MUFON Journal) called something like: "Ed: Yes
-- Billy:No".

BTW, thanks for posting that cookie recipe that appeared on the Internet.  Now
if I can just find someone to do the "dirty work" and really MAKE those damn
things ... Happy New Year! --  John

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Corbin)
Subject: The Bennewitz Papers
Date: 29 Dec 91 22:35:00 GMT

From Christa Tilton:

"'THE BENNEWITZ PAPERS' are now available for $25.00 POSTPAID which updates,
examines new information about Dulce, NM and Christa Tilton's experiences
there with Officer Gabe Valdez, plus her correspondence with Rick Doty, former
AFOSI agent, plus Bill Moore's connection and plust two chapters from Paul
Bennewitz's own manuscript he was to have released and what caused the
government concern to keep him under wraps for so many years.  It is an
explosive manuscript."

Ordering information:  Make all payments payable to Linda Karr, P.O. Box
906237, Tulsa, OK  74112.  ($28 CANADA) ($35 OVERSEAS).

As an aside, I have read the publication and found it to be pretty
interesting.

This is not an endorsement by ParaNet Information Service, and is provided as
a public service announcement.

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Corbin)
Subject: Calvin Knows Better
Date: 29 Dec 91 22:50:00 GMT


 * Forwarded from "Alt.Alien.Visitors"
 * Originally from Travis R. Stone
 * Originally dated 12-27-91 14:14

From: [e-mail] (Travis R. Stone)
Date: 27 Dec 91 15:44:00 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors



    If you think that the subject of UFOs and abductions hasn't
    penetrated fairly deeply into the public consciousness, think
    again: there was a Sunday "Calvin and Hobbes" strip that had
    Calvin reciting a poem...

    While lying on my back to make an angel in the snow,
    I saw a greenish craft appear--a giant UFO!

    A strange, unearthly hum it made!  It hovered overhead!
    And aliens were moving 'round in viewports glowing red!

    I tried to run for cover, but a hook that they had low'rd
    snagged me by my overcoat, and hoisted me aboard!

    Even then, I tried to fight, and though they numbered many,
    I poked them in their compound eyes, and pulled on their antennae!

    It was no use! they dragged me to a platform, tied me up,
    and wired to my cranium a fiendish suction cup!

    They turned it on, and a current coursed across my cerebellum
    Coaxing from my brain tissue the things I wouldn't tell 'em!

    All the math I ever learned, the numbers and equations
    Were mechanic'ly removed in this brain-draining operation!...

    ...My escape was an adventure (I won't tell you what I did);
    Suffice to say, I cannot add--so ask some other kid.

 Have a happy New Year, everyone.  And don't let the Greys get you.

 T.R. Stone
 University of Nebraska-Omaha
 Home of the Toughest Organic Chemistry Instructors on This or
 Any other Planet in the Known Universe

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From: [e-mail] (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Noriega Trial
Date: 23 Dec 91 01:22:00 GMT

In a message to Jim Speiser <20 Dec 91 07:24> Jim Greenen wrote:

 JG> behalf of Noriega. It smells of the James "Bo" Grz trial where it
 JG> was completely black-out from the city limits of Las Vegas. Lars
 JG> Hannson has been covering the trial and has written some news
 JG> articules on it. Can't get a major newspaper or TV station to
 JG> touch it. It makes you wonder just whats going on. 73'S    ---JIM---

What's going on is that Noriega survived to name names.  This should be really
interesting -- bet you 16 to 5 that virtually nothing the defense tries to
present will be allowed into evidence...

Best,
  Clark


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From: [e-mail] (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Suicides?
Date: 29 Dec 91 23:12:00 GMT

In a message to Sheldon Wernikoff <23 Dec 91 08:57> Jim Greenen wrote:

 JG>   Well, lets see--- We got Dr. James McDonald, Morris K. Jessup
 JG> to name 2. Also according to Lars Hannson, there were 3 this year
 JG> that commited suicide. One was the person
 JG> that uncovered the Inslaw dealings.

Hello Jim.  Let us not overlook several recent murders, including Scott Rogo
in L.A. and Tracy ??? and her brother in Las Vegas.

The Inslaw writer would be Daniel Casolaro, though I personally doubt very much
that he died a suicide.  His notes and manuscript disappeared from his motel
room, and someone claiming to be a family member telephoned the local coroner
and authorized embalming his body, thus practically eliminating any chance for
detecting blood-borne toxins like Ricin or the CIA's infamous Shellfish toxin.
 The caller was not a family member.  Lastly, the method of suicide would have
been highly unusual for him -- plus bleeding to death in a hot bath is
something that can be done when a person is *unconscious*, or even dead.

It's interesting to compare Dan Casolaro's "suicide" to Karen Silkwood's "car
accident":

* Sensitive, hemo-phobic writer slashes wrists in bathtub/manuscript, tapes &
  notes disappear

* Ballsy, prize-winning gymkhana & time-trials race driver loses control of
  special race-stablilzed car on empty road, crosses 4 lanes & divider,
  hits abuttment/manuscript, photocopies & notes disappear.

You figure it out.

Dan Casolaro did not research UFO topics, however.  Neither did Karen Silkwood.

Best,
  Clark



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From: [e-mail] (Clark Matthews)
Subject: Suicides?
Date: 29 Dec 91 23:35:00 GMT

In a message to Jim Greenen <24 Dec 91 22:20> Linda Bird wrote:

 LB> In a recent message, you said something to the effect that the 20 +
 LB> witnesses of the Kennedy assassination met with "unfortunate
 LB> accidents."  Could you elaborate a bit on this?  I'm dismayed to
 LB> learn this, but somehow am NOT surprised.

Hi L.B., and Merry Christmas!

The most interesting one was the guy who "committed suicide by hurling himself
through a reinforced display window in a Texas department store".

Check out Lifton's book Best Evidence for more info on the many deaths in the
wake of the JFK murder.  Lloyd's of London calculated, based on their actuarial
data, that the odds against the number of deaths in the people involved in the
2-1/2 years following the murder were in excess of 100 Billion to One.

Best,
  Clark


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From: [e-mail] (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Suicides?
Date: 30 Dec 91 00:29:00 GMT

Hi JIm,

Thanks for answering back on the Kennedy question.  It certainly is
strange how all those people died so mysteriously!

My Xmas was ruined when, a few days before Xmas day, both Hubby and I
came down with colds.  Really nasty for me; got behind in all my school
work, and the lesson I have learned is that I'm gonna have to slow
down.   Still not well yet, just crept outa bed to check mail. <cof>

Happy New Year,

Linda

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From: [e-mail] (Linda Bird)
Subject: Re: Rendelsham/Bentwaters
Date: 30 Dec 91 00:46:00 GMT

Hi Keith,

Thanks for the information on that book.  The address seemed familiar
and it is the smae as "Inner Light" Publications, which I think is run
by Tim Beckeley.

Did you read Jenny Randles' book (1988) called "Abductions"?  It was
republished in paperback, and retitled "Alien Abductions:  They Mystery
Solved."  I haven't read it; wonder what she says.  Do you know?

Thanks,

Linda

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From: [e-mail] (Jim Speiser)
Subject: Visitors
Date: 29 Dec 91 17:44:23 GMT

In a message to All <23 Dec 91 21:14> Keith Basterfield wrote:

 KB> I think I must have been reading far too much material on
 KB> abductions recently. I woke up in the middle of last night to
 KB> distinctly hear a woman's voice softly calling my first name. I
 KB> came to consciousness, and opened my eyes to look around the
 KB> darkened room. The first thought which popped into my mind was,
 KB> "Oh no! Don't let there be anything there." There wasn't, and I
 KB> fell back to sleep, mightly relieved that there really aren't any
 KB> aliens out there in the middle of the night implanting us. But,
 KB> for just a few seconds...

I've had that experience numerous times, always just upon waking (or perhaps I
am startled awake by the voice). I think its related to hypnopompic
hallucinating.

Jim

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From: [e-mail] (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: Nephilim
Date: 31 Dec 91 00:26:00 GMT


1  : >Peggy, I do not remember if it was you who had asked the
2  : >question a few weeks ago about the "nephilim". Anyway, I found
3  : >out in a round about way that the word "nephilim" should
4  : >actualy be "nefilim" which is a hebrew word translated in the
5  : >King James version of the Bible in the 6th chapter of Genisis (
6  : >I think ) as "giants upon the earth".
7  : >In this instance the author of this statement seems to think it
8  : >could also be translated as " those who came down from the
9  : >heavens to the earth". I hope I got the right person. Rocky
10 : >---
11 : > * Origin: ParaNet - Leading UFO Research - 303-933-7184
12 : >(1:104/605.0)
13 : Hi Rocky,
14 : Yes, you did get the right person and I thank you very much for the
15 : information.  BTW, I'll pass this along to Linda Bird, too, as she's
16 : a great student of the Nephilim and will find this useful too.
17 : Thanks for thinking of me and for remembering who, too (how'd you
18 : manage that?  with all the numbers of messages? !)  ;-)
19 :                                         ==Peggy==

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From: [e-mail] (Peggy Noonan)
Subject: CIS message
Date: 31 Dec 91 00:34:00 GMT

Hi Pete,
        Just a note to let you know that I left an EMail message for
you on CIS since I hadn't heard from you after attempting a reply
here.
                        ==Peggy==
PS--why mention it? you'd said you didn't call CI$ too often and
thought you might miss it otherwise.  Thanks = p
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From: [e-mail] (John Powell)
Subject: AVRO Car
Date: 24 Dec 91 22:33:52 GMT

In a message to John Powell <15 Dec 91 16:59> Travis Hall wrote:

 TH> In a post concerning the AVRO Car at the Smithsonian Museum...
 > JP> I've been there and haven't seen it.  If someone knows where it is I'd
 > JP> really like to see it...  (I'll send free photos to the 1st correct
 > JP> respondee...)
 TH> John, Suggest you check the Garber Facility at Silver Hill MD. The Air
 TH> and Space Museum has an extension facility there. Not only do they store
 TH> exhibits there for periodic use in the Museum on the Mall, but that is
 TH> the location where they restore the aircraft, etc. They have an
 TH> extensive exhibit area there and citizens are welcome (you may need an
 TH> appointment).  Docents run the tours and are very knowledgable.
 TH> ---Update-- Just checked with docent (volunteer guide) friend...The AVRO
 TH> hovercar is indeed at this facility.

I talked with them today.  They are open everyday of the year except Xmas day,
Mon-Fri 10am - 5pm, Sat/Sun 10am-1pm.  Reservation/appointment _is_ necessary.
 I was told it was a technical type of tour, about 3 hours, quite unsuitable
for children or the elderly or those who are only casually interested.  Also,
no heat, no security, no facilities.

Thanks, (their number is 202-357-1400), take care.
John.

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